Leaked clip: Nancy Salzman teaching NXIVM Intensive in Monterrey on ‘anger’

Rare leaked clip of Nancy Salzman AKA Prefect teaching a NXIVM intensive. A rare four minute glimpse into the secret world of NXIVM.

“Anger is a secondary emotion. First you experience fear,” she says.

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Darth VanDouche - Chicken Shit01/09/2018

She's stupid. There is such a thing called righteous indignation which is rooted in a controlled anger that is felt and it doesn't have to have anything to do with fear. For example, if someone betrays your trust you're not angry because you fear them. You're angry because you were fooled into believing they were good people with sincere motives but none of that was true. Idiots.

Expian01/09/2018

I am an Expian. I’m glad I am no longer involved. I like what you bring to the table in your comments, Darth VanDouche, but some of the things that were taught (as most people have pointed out come from a variety of other sources masked by Keith’s lie that he came up with all this) do make sense. Yoda, himself, taught that fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering. If someone were to betray my trust, I might not fear that person, but I might fear that I made a poor choice in whom I gave my trust and that others could also betray me, and that would make me angry. Just playing devil's advocate.

Expian01/09/2018

Or is the devils advocate Bob Crockett? Aw snap!

Darth VanDouche - Chicken Shit01/09/2018

I didn't say anger cannot come from fear. What I implied was that anger is not just a secondary emotion. Anger can come from a number of different places, but it can also be the first emotion invoked by a situation that has nothing to do with fear. I cannot fear a choice I made after the fact that resulted in betrayal, only future choices I might make in trusting others because of it.

Expian01/09/2018

I can go along with that. And to disagree with Nancy and Keith, I wouldn’t call any emotion “secondary”. Thinking about your scenario, I can hypothesize feeling emotions, in this case both fear and anger, simultaneously, or alongside each other. Anger at the person for betraying my trust. Fear of the potential/impending repercussions of that betrayal. In that case, it might not be one emotion causing the other to manifest, but experiencing multiple emotions for different reasons.

Darth VanDouche - Chicken Shit01/10/2018

Thanks Dr. KhaLaK for your hypothesis. I too can read between the letters big and small for what the initials and words mean and “can hypothesize what that would feel like.”

Anonymous01/09/2018

For a group claiming to have such a Mexican presence, it's odd to me that these leaked seminars are taught by Nancy in English with a translator on-the-fly translating her ramblings. No Spanish-language teachers were available?

Jason Toad01/09/2018

She is the Prefect. It is your honor to pay to hear her in any language. Bullshit by any other name will still smell as sweet.

hopeful01/10/2018

Nancy is so fucking patronizing and condescending. She talks to people like they have the mental capacity of children.

Expian01/10/2018

I don’t know who Dr Khalak is and I don’t follow what you mean by reading between letters big and small for what initials and words mean. I was simply acknowledging your point and building on it by suggesting that someone can feel multiple simultaneous emotions about the same scenario for different reasons rather than one being a primary emotion leading to a secondary emotion. Essentially, agreeing with you that anger in the case of betrayal of trust can be a primary emotion and that feeling fear about that same betrayal of trust can also be a primary emotion for a different reason than why someone would feel anger.

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Darth VanDouche - Chicken Shit01/09/2018

Expian01/09/2018

Or is the devils advocate Bob Crockett? Aw snap!

Darth VanDouche - Chicken Shit01/09/2018

Expian01/09/2018

Darth VanDouche - Chicken Shit01/10/2018

Thanks Dr. KhaLaK for your hypothesis. I too can read between the letters big and small for what the initials and words mean and “can hypothesize what that would feel like.”

Anonymous01/09/2018

Jason Toad01/09/2018

She is the Prefect. It is your honor to pay to hear her in any language. Bullshit by any other name will still smell as sweet.

hopeful01/10/2018

Nancy is so fucking patronizing and condescending. She talks to people like they have the mental capacity of children.

Expian01/10/2018